SUBCOMMITTEE ON COMMERCIAL AND ADMINISTRATIVE LAW

COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY

U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

OVERSIGHT HEARING ON

THE NATIONAL BANKRUPTCY REVIEW COMMISSION REPORT



Thursday, October 13, 1997

Room 2237 Rayburn Building, 1:00 PM



Ceccotti Testimony


Statement of Commissioner Babette A. Ceccotti
Before the Subcommittee on Commercial,
and Administrative Law
House Committee on the Judiciary
November 13, 1997


The Commission's broad charge to study the bankruptcy system and recommend changes led us to develop an ambitious agenda covering every aspect of bankruptcy practice from the smallest consumer cases to the largest transnational insolvencies. We quickly learned that the bankruptcy system is not a subject that suffers from indifference among those who are familiar with it. During our two-year tenure, we heard from bankruptcy practitioners who rescued businesses and saved jobs, from individuals who rescued themselves and their families, from those who administer the system at all levels, and from academics who study the system. We heard from many people who were frustrated by the legal workings of the system and a few who felt they were cheated by it. No one failed to impress upon us, in one way or another, that the bankruptcy law contains powerful tools that directly or indirectly affect commercial relationships in significant ways and carry out important social goals.
My own views about the workings of the bankruptcy system have broadened over the course of the last two years. As someone who represents benefit plans and labor organizations, I have been reluctantly drawn into bankruptcy cases to fend off attempts to eliminate pension and health insurance obligations, change labor contracts, and reduce employee wage claims. I have not changed my opinion regarding these kinds of activities. But it is clear that bankruptcy cases involve a complex balance of many different and competing interests and important outcomes. A successful business bankruptcy case will save good jobs, keep customers supplied, which helps to save more jobs, and so on. Consumer bankruptcy saves people from misfortune, catastrophe, bad judgment--the full range of human adversity. It allows people to overcome their financial problems and resume productive lives, pay their taxes, and avoid recourse to other social safety nets.
In short, because these systems are already complex and comprised of deliberately balanced interests, significant change should be approached with caution. Reforms--particularly those advertised with sweeping goals--should not be driven by the best lobbyists, or the most attention-getting headlines, or even an alarming statistic. Certainly, no one wants either system, business or consumer, to become a refuge for the cynical disposal of individual and business obligations. But I think you will find that the best of our recommendations--at least among those that have been getting all the press-- are those that attempt to address problems that were credibly described to us and that could be approached with tailored solutions that were not overbroad.
I would like to talk more specifically about some of the recommendations that were developed in the three subject matter working groups in which I participated. You have here today the three members of the Consumer Bankruptcy Working Group. These are, of course, the proposals that have generated the most attention, the most discussion and the most controversy, including our own internal debates.
Our work on consumer bankruptcy exposed deeply divided views about that system and whether and to what extent changes were necessary. We heard from hundreds of people, many of whom with seemingly irreconcilable points of view. Ultimately, it became evident that compromise on a number of issues was essential if we were going to present the Congress with anything useful. We considered and debated a number of consumer proposals as a package in the hopes of increasing the chances of adopting a proposal with broader support. The proposals have already been described as shifting the balance to creditors, and, at the same time, too pro-debtor. I suppose that may indicate some measure of success.
With all that we heard, I did not believe a case had been made that the system suffers from widespread abuse by consumer debtors necessitating broadly applicable and extreme measures, such as those directed at so called "abusive Chapter 7 filings," exemplified by H.R. 2500. Recognizing that perfect answers were not possible, my own view on this issue was that limited measures should be devised to address specifically identified problems. Our proposal to allow courts to issue in rem orders barring future applications of the automatic stay to property under certain instances is one such example. Another recommendation aimed at curbing abuse is our proposal to set an upper limit on the amount of the homestead property exemption that would apply nationwide. We have also proposed an audit program to address repeated concerns expressed over a lack of confidence in the documents filed with bankruptcy petitions. Unlike the "needs based bankruptcy" bill introduced by Congressman McCollom, the more incremental recommendations in the Commission's report focus on discrete problems that we could identify and remedy with some confidence that the cure would not be worse than the disease.
All of the consumer bankruptcy issues we faced were considered against the backdrop of the reported increases in consumer filings over the past couple of years, a phenomenon which we could not fully address given our limited term. It is apparent that there are no simple explanations for the filing statistics that dominated the news from time to time over the past 18 months. Why so many people have amassed so much debt, and what caused so many of them to file bankruptcy cases, is a question about which we heard many theories. As I listened to this debate, it became apparent that there is no easy answer: there are macroeconomic forces that work over time, there are regional "legal culture" issues, and, most basically, there are the individual circumstances of people's lives. The question is far too complex for broad legislative remedies. Until there has been more thorough study and a better understanding of these issues, I believe the best legislative approach is to proceed with caution and narrowly drawn measures. For this reason, H.R. 2500, which proposes a cumbersome and methodologically flawed mechanism for limiting Chapter 7 cases in the absence of a problem demonstrably related to such filings, exemplifies exactly the wrong approach.
I urge you to read the consumer bankruptcy recommendations and the dissent. You will find a number of areas where the dissenters shared, at least in concept, the view of the majority that an issue deserved attention even if there were differences in approach. I hope our recommendations will not be discounted merely because the votes were divided. We produced a nationwide debate on difficult issues in consumer bankruptcy. In addressing these issues, it is important that the interested parties advance to a level of discussion beyond polemics, and on many issues we were able to do that. I hope that the future debate on these issues will be productive and will not be reduced to sound bites and slogans.
I also participated in Working Groups on Chapter 11 issues and Mass Torts and Future Claims. These topics also involved intense work on a wide range of issues. Here again, we endeavored to consult those with varied interests and views for their opinions and insights. We heard from those who differ on a philosophical basis about the benefits of Chapter 11. Their views gave us thought-provoking alternatives to consider. But the more consistent message we heard from those who have worked in the system was that Chapter 11 should not undergo fundamental change.
Instead, the Commission's recommendations focus on making the system more efficient and more business-like in its approach to business reorganization. One of our principal concerns was to eliminate time-consuming and expensive litigation over issues disputed in the courts, such as whether and under what circumstances non-debtor parties can obtain a release, whether courts can review creditors' committee appointments, and what rules should apply to post-confirmation plan modifications. These are perhaps issues that only practitioners and judges can get excited about. They do not have the press appeal of the consumer cases. But resolving discrete questions such as these does help to make the system function more smoothly. The participants in the system will know what the rules are, and therefore avoid wasteful litigation. Those who are familiar with my background will not be surprised to find one or two proposals crafted to address the interests of employees affected by their employer's bankruptcy: one aimed at protecting employee wage deductions and another to make the Chapter 11 process system more accessible to employees and their representatives.
The mass torts and future claims recommendation provides a more comprehensive proposal for a limited group of cases--those where a business suffers a product-driven calamity that has given rise to numerous lawsuits by victims seeking recoveries. The mass future claims recommendations attempt to accommodate the elements of a business bankruptcy case to mass, product-based liabilities so that companies can resolve those liabilities and provide meaningful recoveries to both present and future victims.
The business bankruptcy system--particularly in larger cases-- accommodates a range of interests and competing policy choices. My own view is that where there are significant, competing policy choices, as there often are, caution is the better course of action. A number of our proposals are not as broad as some wanted: the mass future claims proposal, for example, offers a next step, after Congress took the first step in the asbestos amendments enacted in 1994, but does not try to embrace all possible future contingencies a company may conjure up. A number of the chapter 11 proposals are similarly narrow in scope. I believe these proposals achieved our goals and yet reflect a measured approach to expanding the uses of the system.
While it is obvious the Commission's more controversial proposals will further debate, I hope that you will begin the process of implementing the large number of recommendations that were adopted with a strong consensus, particularly the more limited and technical recommendations for which there was wide support not only among ourselves, but with whom we consulted. I would like to close with a short note of thanks and tribute to our staff.
The ambitious scope of the Commission's review and the pace at which we worked imposed burdens on everyone. Our dedicated staff worked under incredible pressures, both in putting together our meetings over the past two years and, most recently, in preparing the Report. They should be recognized and commended for their extraordinary efforts and their professionalism in making it possible for us to present a Report that is comprehensive in scope and as detailed and thorough as it is.



BABETTE A. CECCOTTI


Home Address:
1004 Park Avenue
Hoboken, N.J. 07087
Tel. No.: (201) 217-1166

Office Address:

Cohen, Weiss and Simon
330 West 42nd Street
New York, NY 10036
Tel. No.: (212) 563-4100
Fax No.: (212) 695-5436

Professional Affiliation:

Partner, Cohen, Weiss and Simon.
Cohen, Weiss and Simon is a 37-lawyer firm specializing in the representation of labor
organizations and employee benefit plans.

The firm is general counsel to Air Line Pilots Association International (AFL-CIO); National
Association of Letter Carriers (AFL-CIO); American Federation of Television and Ration
Artists (AFL-CIO), and a number of intermediate and local labor organizations. The firm is
Chief Outside Counsel to the International Brotherhood of Teamsters.

Cohen, Weiss and Simon has also served as Special Counsel to various labor organizations
and employee benefit plans in matters involving bankruptcy and restructuring.

Relevant Bankruptcy Experience:

(1995-1997) Member, National Bankruptcy Review Commission (1983-present)
Represented labor organizations and employee benefit plans, including participation on
(or counsel to client representative) the Official Unsecured Creditors Committees, in
significant Chapter 11 proceedings in the airline, trucking, steel, entertainment and
shipping industries.

Personal:

Born May 20, 1995

Education:

New York Law School, New York, NY J.D., 1983
Professor Ivan B. Soubbotitch Award for Excellence in Poverty Law and Civil Rights

Clark University, Worchester, MA
B.A., Cum Laude, 1977

Publications:

Editor:
"Representing Employees in Bankruptcy Court," Employee and Union Member Guide to
Labor Law (Clark Boardman Callaghan 1997)

Co-author:
"Protecting Union Interests in Employer Bankruptcy," Labor Law and Business Change,
(Estreicher and Collins, eds.), Quorum Books, 1988; "Protecting Retiree Benefits in
Bankruptcy," Proceedings, New York University 41st Annual National Conference on
Labor, 1988.

Professional

American Bar Association, New York State Bar

Associations:

Association, New Jersey Bar Association

Admitted:

Court of Appeals for the Second and Fifth Circuits, U.S. District Court for the Northern,
Southern and Eastern Districts of New York, U.S. District Court for the District of New
Jersey, U.S. District Court in the Eastern District of Michigan



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